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Guanche language derived from Dravida? Sun, 05 Jul 2015 17:16:47 +0000 introduction observation: In what follows, we provide linguistic evidence that the Guanche language is very likely of Dravidian derivation, and

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observation: In what follows, we provide linguistic evidence that the Guanche language is very likely of Dravidian derivation, and not indeed Hamito-Semitic, as usually stated. The present article is intended to be read in connection with the one entitled: The Mysterious Origin of the Guanches, which also figures in the present Homepage. It is an extract of a vastly larger study of ours on this subject, which we are currently in the process of publishing. We would be delighted to discuss the matter with specialists or others who may be interested in it.

According to the Ethnologue Record, the Guanche language is affiliated to the Afro-Asiatic family. The language is now extinct, but several words and expressions are known and extant. Some authorities affirm a connection with the Berber tongue, a position questioned by many linguists.

Since the Guanches lived in almost perfect separation from Europe and Africa from very early epochs, their tongue provides a sort of “fossil” evidence for the very earliest form of the language spoken by the immigrating races that settled in Western Europe and northwestern Africa. Given the probable connection of the Guanches with the Celts and the Berbers, as well as other Aryan races, the problem of these Canarians assumes an enormous importance for the elucidation of human prehistory. Blond, blue-eyed natives are a rarity everywhere, so that the Guanches — who were still living in the Stone Age — present a fascinatingly unique field of study for anthropologists.

We have made the remarkable discovery that the Guanche language is closely related to the Dravidian family of languages of south India, both in grammar and in phonetics and etymology. This fact directly confirms our theory that the tall, blond, blue-eyed Aryans who later formed local races such as the Guanches, the Berbers, the Celts, and the Germans, indeed came in from the Indies, the true site of Atlantis. If this tentative discovery of ours is supported by further research and stands, a revolution will be on order for archaeology as a whole, and for linguistic archaeology in particular.

Ethnologists generally admit that languages afford the strongest evidence of close affinity, not necessarily ethnic, between different civilizations. The a priori probabilities of random coincidences between several words in the two languages under comparison are essentially nil, as we demonstrated elsewhere. Of course, random coincidences can always occur, and the evidence has to be corroborated by other independent proofs, as is the case with our proposal. But the probability of detailed coincidences such as those of the word lists we present below being purely random are unthinkably small, and must be explained in some other way.

A nation can adopt the language and even the religion of their conquerors. This was the case of the Guanches themselves, whose only language nowadays is Spanish, and whose official religion is Catholicism. But the coincidence proves that, at least, a close contact occurred in the past, and this has to be explained by viable theories. A mistake that that is often committed by amateur linguists is comparing just a very few instances of words between the two languages or, conversely, of making a more substantial listing of words of several different, obviously unrelated languages.

Random coincidences and borrowings can certainly occur, and the comparison has to be rather exhaustive in order to prove affiliation or former direct contact. Moreover, the respective etymologies must agree rather perfectly, and so must the corresponding pronunciations. Spelling is generally immaterial, particularly for illiterate tongues or for different alphabets. But the phonetic changes have to conform to certain fixed rules and to laws such as the ones known to linguists and philologists.

guanche word list

In what follows, we compare the several extant Guanche words to their Dravidian correspondents of identical etymology. The list is extensive, but not exhaustive. However, it can be considered representative, as it comprises all words that we could obtain in this first draft. The Dravidian equivalents were obtained from the excellent A Dravidian Etymological Dictionary of T. Burrow and M. B. Emeneau (Oxford, 1984), the classical work on the matter.

We also attempt the interpretation of some Canarian toponyms and anthroponyms, a notoriously difficult task, given the obscurity of the two languages in question. But our results are rather encouraging and compelling, as can be seen by comparison. As we already said, the reader should pay attention to the phonetic correspondences only, disregarding the actual spelling, as a result of the Dravidian alphabet being different from the Roman one adopted for the Guanche language.

guanche – dravidian intercomparison (word list)

GuancheGuanche MeaningDravidian Etymology
AchamanHeavenox-am-an (“the upper expanse”)
achanóyearAjja-no (“time division”)
achicaxnaplebs, peopleAcchi-sagina (“lowly crowd”)
achimenceyking’s relative” (nobles)acchi-menkay (“relatives of the king”)
Achit!Long Live!; Hail!Akchi, Agi-t- (“Hail”)
AchimayekMother, GrandmotherAcchi-mayi-ek (“Great Mother of God”)
AchoronEarthachurun (“marshy land”), ag-alam (“earth”)
ahicoleather shirtayi-kov (“breast cover”) 1
ahofmilkay-ubi (“breast food” = milk)
amulánlard, fatAm-ullu (“liquid fat”)
ahorenbarley bread (gofio)av-ari (av = “baked”, ari = “barley”)
añepascepter, royal staffanne-pal (“royal staff”)
aragoat(k)ara , ar (“goat”)
armeninepastures, grasslandsaram-meyni (“grazing field”)
banotspear, javelinihpa-not (“sharp javelin”)
beñasmencrop, harvest feastpanna-as-men (“ripe fruit cropping”)
bucioconch trumpetbug- (“flute”), pucci (“spurt of sound”)
canchadogkunchi, kenchi (“red dog”)
erepool, ponderi (pond)
ganigopot, jarkann-iku (“water vessel”)
gofiobread, flow(g)uvi-u (“parched sweet cake”)
gorocorralgor-o (“sheep pen”); kora (“corral”)
guanmangand (“hero”, “male”)
guanameneprophet, seerkan-amani (“father seer”) 2
Guanar-teme“King of the Nation”Gan(d)-ak-tempe (idem)
Guañac“Country”, “Nation”Gan(d)-ak (“Land of the Heroes”)
guanilloose cattlekan-iyal (idem)
guaycaleather leggingkay-ka (“leg protection”)
gujonvessel, shipkuccham (“mast”)
hachicheypeas, beansa-chik-kay (“edible beans”)
Hañasheep (herd)ana, kana (“flock”, “herd”) 3
Guayotathe DevilKay-ota (“the Fiery Lord”) 4
irichenwheat, grainarichi (“rice”, “grain”)
MagecGod (the Sun)Mangeh (“Bull” = Shiva) 5
menceykingmenkay (“king”)
mocana type of fruitmanka (= Skt. mankan = “mango”)
Quevehi“Your Highness”Cevvai (“Your Highness”)
Sigoñe“Captain”, “Chief”Cek-kon (“Head Leader”)
taboneknife (of obsidian)tarpuni (“knife”, “blade”)
TagororCouncil, SenateTakkor (“worthy persons”, “senators”)
TajarasteName of a dancetakcha-arasati (“royal dance”)
tamazanonafood (barley mixed with ground meat)tam-acchana-anna (“food made of ground grain and chopped meat”)
Tamaragua“Good Morning”Itam-eruka (“Auspicious Morning”)
tamarcogoatskin (dress)atta-makar (“goat skin”)
tano, tarobarley, grain(t)aru (“grain”, “food”)
teniqueflexible macetanka, doni(k) (mace)
toyafern (edible sprouts)tai (“tender edible sprouts”)
teme“king”(?)tempe (“hero”, “chieftain”)
Vacaguaré!“I prefer to die!”Vaka-k-ari! (“I choose to die!”) 6
xercosandals, shoescherpu (“sandals”, “shoes”) 7
xaxomummy, corpse.chacchu (“corpse”)

notes on the word list:

1) The Dravidian v is usually pronounced like a w or a u.


2) Literally, a Brahman priest. The Sanskrit word derives from the Dravidian radix par meaning “eye” or “seer”, just as does the radix kan. The radix par also implies the idea of “guardian” or “shepherd” (Drav. para = Skt. pala), as well as that of “father”(pappan) and, hence, of “priest”.


3) This word corresponds to the Sanskrit gana (“flock”, “herd”). It also exists in Dravida under the form an, where both the final a and the initial k have been lost.


4) The Guanche Devil was an artificer of the sort of Hephaistos or Vulcanus. The god was believed to live inside the Teyde volcano, working at his infernal forges. This myth can be traced to India, with Vishvakarman being the archetype of all such smithing gods. Guayota is, as we comment in the main text, the alias of Maya, the Great Artificer who built Lanka, the archetype of sunken Paradises everywhere.


5) In the ancient world, the Supreme God was often equated to a bull, as the inseminator of the herd (the nation). Such was the case of Zeus, Dionysus, Poseidon, Baal, Osiris, and, in India, of Indra, Varuna, Shiva and many others. They were also identified to the sun and, more exactly, to the Fallen Sun.


6) The –k– is the usual Dravidian connective. Such is also apparently the case of the Guanche gu that corresponds to it here.


7) The change of p > c (or, rather, into k) is rather unexpected. However, it is frequent in Dravida, where the connective is indifferently either – pp – or –kk– or – tt -.


guanche toponyms and theonyms (tentative interpretation in dravida)

Note: The meaning of some of the below Guanche toponyms is unknown or uncertain. The Dravidian etymologies proposed for them are tentative, and are offered as evidence of the explanatory power of that language. The notes appended below explain the more complex attributions.

GuancheEtymology or PlaceDravidian Etymology
Acentejo“Falling Waters”A-cem-tiyu (“place where waters fall”)
Aguare“Paradise”(a valley)Akar-e (“Celestial Heights”)
AñazaName of a beachAniy-acha (“beautiful beach”)
AnagaOne of Tenerife’s KingdomsAn-aka (“Supreme Abode”) 1
Arautapola (Orotava)Capital of Taoro KindomArayata-poly (“Royal City”) 2
AtidamaneName of a great queenAtti-tamman (“Mother of the People”)
Benahoare“My Land”(M)ena-(kh)aré (“My Country”)
BimbacheA people from HierroVin-bach (“Land of the Brave”)
Canarias“Island of the Dogs”Cham-ari (“Island of Cham”) 3
Chenech (or Chinech or Achinech)Local name of TenerifeChe-nek (“Pure Land”) 4
Echeyde (Teyde)“The Luminous One”Ecch-eyd or Chey-ide (“The White (or Fiery or Shiny) Mountain”)
GomeraOne of the CanariesGomeda (“Fat Cattle”) 5
GuacimaraName of a royal princessKaci-mara (“Golden Beauty”)
Guanche(See note 6)Cham-che (“The Golden Heroes”) 6
Guan-Chenech“Men of Chenek” (Guanches)Gan(d)-che-nek (idem, see note 4)
HeroHierro, FerroHiera (“Holy”); Iru(m) (“Iron”) 7
MagecThe Sun (as God)Mach-ek (“Dark Sun” = Vishnu)
Maxo?Macchu (“Golden”)
Maxorata (or Majoreros)Fuerte VenturaMacchu-irata (“Golden Abode”)
TacaronteOne of the ten Guanche realmsIta-koruntu (“Land of Fat Cattle”) 8
TamaranGran CanariaIta-maram (“Land of Braves”) 9
TaoroMain kingdom of TenerifeIta-oru (“Land of Union”) 10
Tenerife“White Mountain”Tin-eriv (“Shiny Mountain”) 11

notes on the tentative etymologies of guanches toponyms

1) Anaga was the northernmost kingdom of the island of Tenerife, and its shape roughly resembled a heart. Accordingly, the Dravidian An-aka embodies the two ideas. An means “supreme”, “uppermost” and, by extension, “northernmost”. Aka (or akam) means “home”, “abode”, “heart’, “bosom”, “innermost”. In contrast to the other kingdoms, all coastal, Anaga extended into, and encompassed the very heart of Tenerife’s interior.


2) The capital of Taoro was named Arautava or Arautapola, nowadays corrupted to Orotava. In Dravida, the radix poly, polly, palli, etc. expresses the idea of “gathering” and, hence, of “city”. This corresponds to the Greek polis and the Sanskrit pura meaning the same. Such is also the idea expressed by the suffix of Arautapola, the capital city of Taoro. The word “royal” (arayata) has form such as arayan, aranta, arahaua and arachan. It is from such forms that the Sanskrit raja (“king”) and the Latin rex, regis (idem) ultimately derive.


3) Pliny, in his Natural History, affirms that the name of “Canaria” derives from the many dogs found on the island (Canis, in Latin). This is an exoterism, and the name indeed derives from that of Cham, the patriarch of the Chamites (or Ethiopians), the fallen ones. In reality, the word Cham means precisely the same as “Ethiopian” or “burnt-faces”. The Dravidian etyms of the word Cham are highly enlightening. The word means both “artificer”, “smith”, “architect”, as well as “fallen”, destroyed”, “dead”, “terminated”. Both in Dravida and in the Biblical tradition, the name of Cham is also interpreted as meaning “dog”, “doggish”.

The suffix ari– of “Canary” means “island”, “cliff”, “rock”, in Dravida, and implies the idea of a sunken land whose peaks remained above the water. Hence, the Canaries are the Island of the Artificers who engendered Creation; the Fallen Angels or Nephelim, who “fell” (or died or were exterminated) at the end of their era, becoming damned dogs. In other words, the Guanches are “the People of Cham” (Guan-che or Cham-che), an etym (etymology)not unrelated to that of “Dog” and to that of the Canaries. (See Note 6, below).


4) The name of “Pure Land” is the traditional designation of places that, like the Canaries, have been equated to Paradise. Indeed, Chenok or Cham-ok (“Abode of the Chams”) means the same as “Canaries”, as seen in note 3) above. This name is a direct translation from the Sanskrit Sukhavati (or Shveta-dvipa, etc.), as we discuss elsewhere. The name of Chenech closely evokes the one of Chenoch, the first of all cities, founded by Cain (Gen. 4:17). The name of Chenoch (or Henoch or Enoch) is sometimes rendered as “Initial”. But this is essentially the same as “Foundation”, one of the many names of Paradise (Sutala) in India. In Dravida, either ek or ok mean “abode”, “city”, “house”.


5) Gomeda (or Gomeda-dvipa, the “Island of the Fat Cattle”) is the name of one of the seven dvipas (Paradisial islands) of the Hindus. The name of Gomeda plays on that of Gomedha, “the sacrifice of the bull”. Gomeda is also the some as Gomata (“rich in cattle”) and Govardhana (idem), two other paradisial cities of the Hindus. As we explain elsewhere, Gomeda-dvipa, the sunken “Island of the Fat Cattle”, is a name of the Hindu Paradise that served as a model for ours, as well as for Punt and for Plato’s Atlantis. The Dravidian d, when cerebral, often changes into an r, as was the case here.


6) The precise etym of the word “Guanche” and its relationship with the other Chamitic (or “Solar”) races has been explained in detail in our article on the Guanches in this Homepage. The word is composed of the radices guan and che, which correspond to the Dravida ones cham and che. Cham means “golden”, “coppery”, ” red”, “solar”, “fiery”, “flaming”, and embodies the idea of “purified by fire”, as in the name of the Ethiopians. The expression “Purified by Fire” is a metaphor for “gold” and for the Golden Races of Cham in India. It has also to do with the Cathars (or “Pures”) as we explain elsewhere.

As we said in note 3 above, the name of “Cham” also means “dog” and, more exactly the wild red dog of the Indies, the Cuon alpinus. Hence, the play on words of Pliny, deriving the name of the Canaries (and, indirectly, of the Guanches) “from the multitude of dogs that inhabit these islands”. Likewise, the Dravidian suffix che, related to words such as the Latin gens (“noble people”) means “nobles’, “heroes”, “kings”, “majesties”. It is the Dravidian equivalent of the Sanskrit Rajaputras (“Sons of Kings”), the very name given to the Kshatryas or “Reds”, that is, the ruddy races of Cham. The “Chams” or “Reds” are the decayed golden races of Atlantis who eventually became vicious, as told by Plato.


7) Hiera (“Holy”, in Greek) is the name of a famous mysterious island in antiquity. Hiera is often identified with Ireland (Eire = Hiera). But this is sheer exoterism. Several other islands were also erroneously called Hiera in antiquity. One such is Thermessa (or Vulcano) near Sicily and the Etna volcano. Thermessa was reputed to be the abode of Vulcanus (Hephaistos), the infernal volcanic god of the Greeks and Romans. Hiera is mentioned by Avienus (Ora, 108), who places it next to Tartessos, another legendary island of the Outer Ocean, the world-encircling ocean of the ancients.

Every volcanic island tended to be confused with the Atlantean ones or with their aliases, the Islands of the Blest. Such was the case of the Canaries and, also, of Sicily and Thermessa, as well as of England and Ireland. The English word “iron” has no sure etymology, and very likely derives from the Dravida iru or irum meaning the dark metal. Apparently the Portuguese knew the true etymology of the local name when they renamed it “Ferro” (later Hierro, “Iron” in Spanish). It is curious that the Guanches would have the word for “iron”, a metal they did not have. The fact that their word for it is Dravidian can only be explained by postulating a contact between the two nations in prehistoric times. And these times can only have been those of Atlantis. What others?


8) The name of Tacaronte, if interpreted in Dravida as here, apparently corresponds to the one of Gomera (see note 5 above).


9) Ita-maram (Tamaran), “the Land of the Brave” corresponds to the name of Vin-bach (Bimbache) or Hierro. The Guanches were fierce combatants, and resisted the Spanish conquest down to the last man. Canarian wrestling is famous even today, and was originally used to train the Guanche warriors for battle.


10) Taoro was the chief of the nine realms of Tenerife. It occupied its best lands, in the most sheltered region of the island. Oru implies the idea of “oneness” and, hence, of “union”, “harmony”, “single-mindedness”, “leadership”. All such etyms express the idea of Taoro as the leading realm of Tenerife, the one which insured peace and harmony for all the ten regions of the island.


11) The name of Tenerife, which we encounter in the two forms, just as in Dravida, seems to be an allusion to the Teyde volcano, the main feature of the island. This volcano was, by the natives, equated to Mt. Atlas, as we discuss in our accompanying text on the Guanches. In Dravida, the idea of “white” is synonymous with “shiny”, as instanced here.

The Teyde volcano is snow-capped, and the etym is often interpreted as an allusion to this fact. But the main reason is the shiny lava that illuminates its active volcanic peak. Compare the etymology of Teyde in the above list (s. v. Echeyde). The Dravidian etyms can also be interpreted as an allusion to the Fallen Mountain (Ecch-eytt), that is, to Mt. Atlas which the mountain replicates.



Several phonetic laws, some akin to Grimms’ Law, can be observed from the above Word List when passing from the Dravida to the Guanche languages. It is amazing that the two families of tongues — separated by a huge gap in both time and space — still resemble each other so closely. The explanation of this remarkable fact certainly results from the circumstance that both races were fairly well sheltered from alien contact and influence, the Dravidas down to the present and the Guanches down to the extinction of their culture, at the end of the 15th century.

Further research on the true affiliation of the Guanche tongue — now that a new inroad has been discovered — is certainly required in the matter. If our tentative discovery proves to be real indeed, it can perhaps revolutionize human prehistory as a whole and, particularly, that of Europe itself. The origin of the Aryan races is perhaps the most puzzling of all ancient enigmas. It is one that is far from solved, despite the statements to the contrary on the part of certain anthropologists. The siting of their primeval homeland in the Caucasus or in Central Asia are purely illusory, and have been refuted by the most competent of anthropologists and philologists.

According to our theory, the Aryans are the blond, blue-eyed, tall races of Java and Sumatra, the Yavanas or Yonas. These are also the same as the Seres (or Pious Ethiopians or Hyperboreans) of Pliny, Solinus, and other ancient authorities. The ancients knew far better than us the meaning of their old myths and traditions, for they had access to many holy books now lost due to the fanatic book burnings that attended the birth of Christianism. So, the Aryans are apparently originary from the Indies and seem to have reached Europe, at least in part, via the Indian and the Atlantic Oceans and the rounding of Africa. Other Aryan nations came, in several waves along the centuries, by land, across Asia, North Africa and the Levant, or across the Indian Ocean and the pristine Suez Canal, before it was permanently closed by the ancient Egyptians.

Interestingly enough, the present theory of ours tends to support the early traditions concerning the immigrations to Europe via the ocean and across straits that were later closed, led by heroes such as Hercules and Aeneas. These traditions survive in sagas like those of Virgil’s Aenead and Orpheus’ Argonautica, not to mention Plato’s Atlantis and the relations of the Celts and of Genesis. As we see, the Bible is indeed right, but in a far different way than thereto suspected. And the reason why the Bible and the ancient traditions were written in the form of myths is easy to understand. This was done in order to avoid the tampering and falsification of the historical relations, as is so often the case. What is not understood can hardly be adulterated in any coherent way.

Among the phonetic rules that transpire from the above Word List, we note that, in passing from Dravida to Guanche, the terminal consonants such as r, l and n are usually lost. This loss can be observed in pairs such as añepa / annepal; ahico / ayikov; guan / gand; ayi-ub / ahof, etc.. Another observable regular change is that of Dravidian u into Guanche o, as in acemtiyu / acentejo; guviu / gofio; etc.. Other changes seem to be k> gu; k> h; a> i; m> n; final e or i> ek or ik; a > e;b or v> f or h; p > b or, sometimes, p> c.

All in all, these changes are rather minor, and are amply attested in other languages, as well as within Dravida itself. Moreover, they can be due to poor phonetic transcription or, even, be the result of Spanish influence upon the residual Guanche population that remained in the islands after the conquest. In brief, the coincidence between Dravida and Guanche is far too close to be dismissed casually. The honest, open-minded anthropologist or linguist cannot simply ignore this find which is, moreover, amply supported by all sorts of independent anthropological evidence. For more on this, see the accompanying article in our page entitled: “The Mysterious Origin of the Guanches“.

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Is Gunung Padang the oldest pyramid on the planet ? Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:37:30 +0000 Posted on June 10, 2014 by   Frank Joseph: “The first archaeological survey of Gunung Padang appears in a “Report,

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Frank Joseph: “The first archaeological survey of Gunung Padang appears in a “Report, the Department of Antiquities” (Rapporten van de Oudheidkundige Dienst) for Holland’s colonial office in 1914. Thirty-three years later, a Canberra team from the Australian National University’s Centre for Archaeological Research determined that Gunung Padang was far older than previously imagined.

Not until February 2012, however, was a State-sponsored evaluation of the site carried out, when thorough radiocarbon testing revealed it was built and first occupied about 4,800 years ago. As the researchers were carrying out their investigations, they noticed traces on Mount Padang’s surface of underground structures.

The President of Indonesia himself, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, lavished the archaeologists with costly GSSI and Multi-Channel SuperSting R-8 ground-penetrating radar units, plus GEM-Ovenhausser geo-magnetometers. These state-of-the-art instruments readily found and accurately confirmed the existence of large and small chambers, walls, gates and staircases buried deep beneath the often-visited, open-air ruins.”

“Team leader and geologist, Dr. Danny Hilman Natawidjaja and his twenty colleagues carefully dredged up organic materials, which were sent for laboratory testing in the United States.

The Jakarta Post announced on 5 November: “A recent analysis of carbon-dating by the Miami-based Beta Analytic Lab has apparently validated findings by a government-sanctioned team that a man-made structure lies buried under Mount Padang in Cianjur, West Java. The lab used samples of sand, soil and charcoal found at a depth of between three and twelve metres beneath the mountain’s surface. Based on geo-electric, geo-radar and geo-magnetic [surveys], a large chamber is buried at least up to fifteen metres from the surface… Carbon-dating test results from the Miami lab show that the structure could date back to 14,000 B.C., or beyond.

The significance of this discovery cannot be over-stated, because it crosses the Ice Age event horizon.”


Michael Bachelard: “Hilman, who holds a PhD from the California Institute of Technology and senior geologist at Indonesia’s Centre for Geotechnical Research, believes that most of this 100 metre hill is actually man-made, built up on three stages over the millenniums by three different cultures. If he’s right, then buried beneath the piles of ancient stone is by far the oldest pyramid on the planet.

Vulcanologist Sutikno Bronto, says Gunung Padang is simply the neck of a nearby volcano, not an ancient pyramid. “Danny Hilman is not a vulcanologist. I am,” he says. As for the carbon-dated cement between the stones, on which Hilman relies for his claims about the age of the site, Sutikno believes it is simply the byproduct of a natural weathering process, ”not man-made”.

Other sceptic archaeologist asks: ”In the Pawon cave in Padalarang [about 45 kilometres from Gunung Padang], we found some human bones and tools made of bones about 9500 years ago, or about 7000 BCE. So, if at 7000 BCE our technology was only producing tools of bones, how can people from 20,000 BCE obtain the technology to build a pyramid?”


Rick MG: “Several of Gunung Padang’s standing stones have astronomical alignments, reinforced by indigenous names for the site. Locals refer to the ruins as Sundapura, the “Shrine of the Sun”, while the hill itself is called Parahyang Padang, “Where the Sun Ancestors Dwell”.

“Its andesite blocks and columns resonate with a bell-like tone when struck with another hard object. They belong to a rare, geological occurrence known as lithophony, the property of some rocks to emit musical sounds under percussive stress.”

“Graham Hancock is preparing to visit the site soon, as part of research for his follow-up to Fingerprints of the Gods.”

Mount Sadahurip – Garut, Indonesia

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Professor Arysio Santos believed he had found Atlantis Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:36:41 +0000 Posted on June 10, 2014 by   I first came upon the name of Professor Arysio Nunes dos Santos, which is often

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I first came upon the name of Professor Arysio Nunes dos Santos, which is often shortened to Prof. Arysio Santos, back in 2002 after I had returned to Wales from Tenerife. I had become fascinated with the Guanche people, who were the original inhabitants of Tenerife and the other Canary Islands, as well as the strange Dragon Trees (Dracaena draco ) that grow here. I had been searching for information online and soon came upon Prof. Santos and his website about Atlantis. The Canary Islands are believed by many to be all that is left of Atlantis and this is confirmed in the books of Colonel James Churchward, however, Arysio did not agree with this and had come up with a discovery he believed was where the true location of Atlantis was. I became his friend and we exchanged very many emails. Prof. Santos, who was trained in academic science and was a professor of nuclear physics in Brazil, told me he had originally started his research into Atlantis as a sceptic and unbeliever but having researched throughly into world religions, occult traditions, geology and word derivations he had become convinced it was very very real indeed. It became a mission of his to get the knowledge that Atlantis was real out to this crazy world.

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New theory about Atlantis

He had a completely new theory – that Atlantis could not be found because everyone had been looking in the wrong place and that Plato’s work on the subject had been misunderstood. Arysio believed that the true location of Atlantis was in the area of the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. The Indonesian islands are all that is left of it. He also felt that India was one of its nearest and many colonies and that the holy books known as the Vedas and the Hindu religion are based on and in Atlantis. The professor also believed that many other religious ceremonies such as baptism were memories of Atlantis and how it perished under the seas. Arysio thought that that Guanche language was derived from Dravidian and set out a very good case proving this by comparing Dravidian words with those of the Guanche tongue – many are nearly identical. He had also written on The Mysterious Origin of the Guanches. He believed that the “Golden Age” and the Garden of Eden and “Paradise” were all memories of Atlantis as it once was and that after its destruction the survivors had to begin again and had lost all their technological advances and were reduced to a very primitive way of living. His idea was that Atlantis was destroyed following a cataclysmic volcanic eruption and tsunami that shook the entire world. He told me once that he thought it might have been triggered deliberately in nuclear war by these ancient people who lived on Atlantis and he was praying this was not going to be the fate of the world again. Arysio asked me if I thought we could collaborate in putting a book together for the European or American market, a book that would be condensed from all of his research work that spanned over 20 years of time. His work covered so many fields of knowledge and also speculated on the Atlanteans as being brilliant genetic scientists who had created plants we have today including most of those that have entheogenic or other drug properties. As I said, his work covered so many fields such as geology, linguistics, climatology, anthropology, archaeology and included botany, a subject I was very interested in myself. I agreed to help put a book together but having made several starts on it I had to admit defeat. I told Arysio that I simply could not find a way of linking all the pieces of the massive jigsaw together and keep it within one volume and make it a work that a publisher would be likely to take on. He understood my difficulty completely. I carried on corresponding and joined the forums for his website and eventually I was delighted to find that he had at last found someone to help put that book together and had got it published. I knew this was part of his mission in life to get that book out there. I moved from Wales to Tenerife back at the end of 2004 and lost personal touch to a large degree with Arysio but I was still keeping up to date on his forums but sadly the site got hacked and the forums were lost. I just had cause to go to his site today and very sadly found that my friend Prof. Arysio Santos has passed away and an announcement to this effect had been posted on the site earlier this year. I am writing this hub as a sort of tribute to a very great man, who was a true pioneer when it came to alternative history of this planet, and a man whose work needs to be looked at if you are interested in the mystery of Atlantis. Prof. Arysio Santos believed he had solved that mystery. For more info: There is a very interesting and in depth interview with Frank Joseph Hoff – Prof. Arysio Santos’ Understudy, Researcher & Business Agent until his untimely death on September 09, 2005, that can be listened to on the following link: Copyright © 2010 Steve Andrews. All Rights Reserved.

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Atlantis of the East? Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:35:44 +0000 Posted in: Bali travel guide | Tags: Atlantis, diving | By: Shermine | August 19, 2013   A drowned civilization, a tale of a city lost beneath the

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Drowned World - Underwater Temple Garden


A drowned civilization, a tale of a city lost beneath the choppy waves. This is the stuff of myth and legends… but wait! Have divers found what could possibly be the Atlantis of the East?

Off the coast of Bali, 100 feet beneath the sea level, divers have discovered what appears to be the ruins of an exotic lost temple.

The statues of gods stand silently still, guarding the temple gateway as the currents drift overhead. A bed of corals have lent themselves to decorating this underwater garden. The silent pulse of the water and the mystical statues hint at an exciting discovery indeed.

What is this place? Is it really a city lost beneath the waves?

Well, this is actually the site of the Underwater Temple Garden, which was purposely ‘sunk’ in 2005 by British diver Paul Turley to entertain the customers of his diving school in Pemuteran and also as a spot for marine conservation. Local fishermen help to maintain the corals nearby.

A lost civilization it may not be, but it still makes for an excellent diving spot which you can visit whilst you’re in Bali.  With a little imagination, it is not hard to feel like you’re diving a real sunken city.

And who knows, there might just be a real lost treasure nearby to discover…

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Submerged Atlantis Ruins Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:34:31 +0000 Posted on June 23, 2014 by Have you ever seen a map showing the bronze age port cities of the

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Have you ever seen a map showing the bronze age port cities of the world? You certainly have not, because the darwinists will tell you sea level at circa 2000 B.C. was little different than today, yet the presence of hundreds of submerged ruins’ sites from the Gulf of Chambay to Bimini, and from Cornwall to Nan Madol, certainly belie that notion, with most of the submerged ruins worldwide in the Mediterranean and eastern Atlantic, right where you’d expect them to be, where Sidon, Peleg, Javan, Tarshish, and Atlas plied the waters, building their port facilities, now submerged since the end of the Ice Age. Here is a partial list of the submerged ruins worldwide, with pictures where available, to be soon updated as more photos will undoubtedly roll-in from interested “submergie” aficionados, so help out if you can, hard as it may be for a darwinist to do, but certainly not for a soon-to-be ex-darwinist, we shall see.

Red Inundated “Bronze Age” Land

Red = Inundated “Bronze Age” Land

Black Sea

The photos below are from a submerged stone complex a hundred feet down and a mile from shore off Anapa, Russia, in the Black Sea, we call it Conan’s Castle (a Cimmerian). Note the “cyclopean” stone blocks like at Mycenae and Tiryns in Greece, even reminiscent of some of the great stone work achieved in the Andes a half a world away.




This was the center of the Atlantean empire, with submerged ruins reported off Ceuta, Tarifa, Zahara de Los Atunes, Cadiz, Rota, and Chipiona of Spain, and the ruins of the city of Atlantis perhaps thirty miles south of Cadiz in a hundred feet of water, ruins too at several locations off Morocco on both sides of Gibraltar, so why have we not seen reports about these on National Geographic and the Discovery Channel, perhaps because the Ice Age ended much later than they’re telling us?


Submerged ruins have been reported off Cornwall’s Isles of Scilly, in Cardigan Bay, off Tory Island, and off the Brittany coast of the Kingdom of Ys, also known as Keris, all these submerged ruins part of Atland as it’s called in the ancient book Oera Linda of the Frisians, that empire also known as Atalan, and don’t bet against Avalon, the story adapted two thousand years later.


Famed british nautical archaeologist Nic Flemming reported submerged bronze age (read ice age) ruins off Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya; at Gigthis, Al Jezirah, Thaene, Achulla, Sullectum, Thapsus, Horrea Cahelia, Neopolis, Mour, and Carpis, and off Sliema, Malta, massive temple ruins are reported like those onshore, all bronze age vintage, atlantean, as Plato said that Atlantis extended inside the Pillars of Hercules (Gibraltar) to Libya and Italy (Tyrian Sea); how far outside he didn’t say, perhaps because he had not heard about the ice age tin mines of the Formorians (men of Morocco) at Cornwall, England, nor about Bimini of the Bahamas, ‘though he did write that there was another continent (not Asia) beyond the western ocean.


Bronze age cities such as Psathoura and Pavlopetri now lie on the shallow sea floor off the coast of Greece, submerged since the time of the Flood of Ogyges, the same flood as of Atlantis, and Dardanus, when the ice age ended. Other reported locations by the greek government are off Astakos, Platygiali, Psouthora, and Abdera, with submergies too reported off Lemnos, Samothrace, and who knows how many other locations? Discovery Channel, History Channel, please get on down there, the maritime history of bronze age Greece is there to be found. Submerged ruins are reported in the Bay of Syracuse off Sicily, and in the Bay of Naples by Nic Flemming, and off the coast of Turkey too, the land of the Carians, namesake of the Caribbean and Cariococa (Rio de Janeiro), no doubt having sailed there when the Ice Age ended, when too the Amazons sailed across the Atlantic, and east to the Black Sea.


Syria was named after Tyre, anciently known as Tsurriya, the coastal port city which became an island city after the end of the Ice Age, then dominating over rival phoenician port city Sidon, both cities’ previous buildings found submerged just offshore, and twenty miles north of Sidon, the submerged ruins of Yarmuta, a big bronze age city, with submerged ruins there to prove it, if only the darwinists would at least act interested, we could really debate these things, but alas, they see the writing on the wall, proof that the ice age ended much later than they have been telling us, so time to correct, with your help. Off Israel are the submerged ruins of bronze age Atlit Yam and Akko, these also canaanite port cities, and notice Atlit is for Atlas, or water, and Yam is a name for Ham, the great-grandfather of Atlas; that known as Hercle (Hercules) later by the Etruscans.


With extensive submerged megalithic ruins to the northeast of Alexandria in Aboukir Bay, out to four miles from shore, along the submerged channel of the extinct Canopic branch of the Nile, that these too are not discussed by the darwinists is of no great surprise; those submerged “egyptian” cities Heraklion (of Hercle/Atlas) and Menouthis (of Atlas’ brother Mneseas/Minos/Menes), built largely of aswan granite from upper Egypt, were clearly nowhere in sight when Alexander the Great arrived in the region to build his city. Mainstream geologists such as Amos Nur of Stanford have tried to explain away the submerged ruins by saying the cities slid out to sea, oh really?


Underwater ruins in the Gulf of Chambay on the submerged channel of the extinct Sarasvati river extend out to fifity miles from shore, so did those slide out to sea too? You can see that it gets ridiculous to say the Ice Age ended circa 10000 b.c. when but there are legendary bronze age ruins, in this case of the Indus Valley Civilization, far out at sea, some also in the Gulf of Kutch, the submerged ruins of Kususthali (Dwarka), the ocean port city of Kush, the name of the city the key actually to actually deciphering the Indus Valley script because the ligature in the Indus script for thalassocracy is a triton-looking sign, a semitic alphabet applied to that language now written as vedic sanskrit. Along the southeastern coast of India from Mahabalpiuram down to Cape Comoran are submerged megalithic ruins of the Kingdom of Kumari Kandam, flooded according to the vedic literature such as the flooding of Kususthali of the Indus Civilization by sea level rise.

Persian Gulf

That shallow bay of the ocean was dry land during the ice age when sea level was much lower, the combined waters of the ice age Tigris and Euphrates rivers flowed down through that land of pastures, marshes, and forests, with the submerged ruins of Kish now reported by iranian divers, surely many more to be discovered, perhaps of legendary Meluha, where Noah (Utnapishtim) may have spent his last days according to the Epic of Gilgamesh, having died in the time of Abraham.

Western and South Pacific

Many have heard of the fabulously extensive and massive basalt column buildings of Nan Madol on the island of Ponape, the Caroline islands of the western Pacific, yet offshore there is the real story, submerged ruins down to a hundred feet, even vertical columns still standing, submerged since the end of the ice age. And off the Ryukyu Islands of southern Japan, off the islands of Yonaguni and Chatan for instance, are the magnificent submerged ruins of the old Kami, named after guess who? Yes, no doubt Cham, Ham, Khem, the Kami later associated with spirits to be appeased, that good ol’ ancestor worship, very common in ancient times and today. Many other submerged ruins have been reported across the Pacific, and who would doubt it?

Where would you guess other submerged ruins might be found? Perhaps some are buried in sediments along the flooded channel of the Mississippi river in the Gulf of Mexico, or submerged at the mouth of the Rhone in the Mediterranean, or the Danube now submerged in the Black Sea, or buried in sediments at the mouth of the Niger? Let’s encourage the nautical archaeologists to photograph the hundreds of known sites of submerged ruins, but don’t hold your breath for that, because the work done by such as new agers Graham Hancock and David Hatcher Childress documenting submerged ruins, and then trying to extend the bronze age back to 10000 b.c., and work by Nic Flemming, trying rationalize the sculpted blocks and pillars of submerged bronze age ruins with his darwinian timeline for the end of the Ice Age at 10000 b.c., leave only the biblical model as the rational alternative, oh the horror!

Exposition Two:

Atlantis has consistently been a source of great confusion for history buffs ever since the time of Plato who recorded the famous tale (the story which the egyptian priests of Sais had reported to the greek historian Solon circa 600 b.c.), yet when you read carefully the atlantean tale in Plato’s Critias and Timaeus, you’ll see that the empire of Atlantis was clearly bronze age, with trireme ships, global navigation, bronze age weaponry, megalithic cities, and kings cited in that timeframe who lived not 12,000 years ago, but in the general timeframe of the Exodus, those kings such as Erisichthon, Cecrops, Erechtheus, and Theseus, aegean kings whom Plato wrote lived just after the submergence of the atlantean empire (and much of Greece).

Plato never said that Atlantis was a lost continent, but he did say it was an island, using the word nesos which ‘though also means peninsula, in this case really the iberian peninsula (now Spain and Portugal), with the mountains of southern Spain, the Sierra Nevada and Morena in the story, the range of mountains to the north of the city of Posidon (Sidon son of Canaan), also known as the city of Atlas (Sidon’s son), that concentric ringed canal city of Atlantis now submerged about 30 miles south of Cadiz (namesake of Atlas’ brother Gades) since the end of the Ice Age. Plato wrote that the empire of Atlantis extended inside the Pillars of Hercules (Gibraltar) all the way to Libya and Italy (Tyrhennian Sea), and outside Gibraltar as well, clearly a coastal navigating empire of the bronze age, which obviously was too during the Ice Age.

Another greek legend of the great sea level rise which consumed much of Greece was the Flood of Ogyges, a greek king who is said to have taken rule after 189 years of anarchy which followed that massive sea level rise when climate change and the loss of coastal real estate had thrown much of the inhabited world into chaos, so you wonder why Plato didn’t factor this into his dating for the demise of Atlantis, but for whatever reason, Plato contradicted himself in citing the greek kings of circa 1300 b.c. and bronze age weaponry and navigation capability in his story as having lived almost 10,000 years before his time. Yet another flood of ancient greek lore was the Flood of Deucalion, that one plainly described as the flood which covered the entire earth, Noah’s Flood, the geothermal heating then by the fountains of the great deep having been the engine for the Ice Age, which began to end circa 1500 b.c. when the oceans of the world had cooled to about today’s temperatures.

Exposition Three:

Plato wrote that Posidon (Canaan’s son Sidon) bestowed ten districts of atlantean empire governorship to his sons, one son Atlas having gained the kingship of the district of the concentric canal ringed city of Atlantis, his namesake (along with the Atlantic ocean and the Atlas mountains), that legendary capital city of Atlantis where the worship of Posidon was centered and practiced for perhaps forty generations until the Ice Age ended (when the sea level rose to consume 25 million square miles of coastal real estate worldwide). So what about the other regions of the atlantean empire governed by the other nine sons of Posidon noted in Plato’s diaglogue with Critias?

Several of the names of the brothers of Atlas stand out geographically to confirm the vast range of the atlantean empire which Plato wrote extended to even ice age coastal Egypt, where Posidon’s son Mneseas (who was perhaps king Menes of Egypt) founded the now submerged city of Menouthis, its magnificent ruins submerged five miles from shore near Alexandria (which was founded by Alexander the Great as a port city circa 350 b.c. when Menouthis and also now submerged Heraklion were nowhere in sight), and another brother of Atlas named Elasippus was obviously the founder of Olisippo, Portugal, the modern name Lisbon, comporting with that Plato wrote in his diaglogue with Timaeus that the atlantean empire extended far outside the Pillars of Hercules as well (the rulerships of Atlas and his twin brother Gades/Cadiz between Gibraltar and Olisippo). Of course the rich tin (required for the production of bronze) source region near Cornwall, England, ruins now submerged offshore there, was undoubtedly part of the realm of Atlantis, but we know not which son of Posidon was the iniital ruler there, yet to be determined.

In his dialogue with Timaeus, Plato wrote that the atlantean empire extended to the Tyrhennian sea, of course which is the sea of Italy’s western coast. And since such as Nic Flemming of nautical archaeological fame have reported submerged megalithic ruins in the Bay of Naples and off Syracuse, Sicily, with submerged megalithic ruins noted too of the northeast coast of nearby Malta (which was connected to Sicily during the ice age), the empire of Atlantis was certainly as Plato said it was, a coastal empire stretching far inside and outside the Pillars of Hercules, clearly to Egypt and Italy, and far up the Atlantic coast as well. So the popular notion that the empire of Atlantis was some continent-sized island now submerged way out in the Atlantic ocean is proven ridiculous, because that empire was demonstrably a vast ice age maritime empire of the western Mediterranean and eastern Atlantic coastlines, which comports with the biblical timeline, that the Ice Age ended circa 1500 b.c. at the time of the Exodus of the jews out of Egypt to the land of the Canaanites, their patriarch having been Canaan, the father of Sidon (Posidon).

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The Discovery of Atlantis Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:58:22 +0000 What would the discovery of the Lost City and Continent of Atlantis do for “The Power of Culture in Sustainable Development” if it were to turn-up in Southeast Asia, particularly in Indonesia? What could we learn from our ancient ancestors from remotest antiquity? What would the impact of such a discovery be on our youth and all of humanity? Perhaps just a little or perhaps a whole lot? Thousands of books and papers have already been written on Atlantis since its reality was first disclosed by the great philosopher Plato, some two and a half millennia ago. Hence, one may well wonder whether …Read more »

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Prof. Arysio Santos at Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

Prof. Arysio Santos at Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

What would the discovery of the Lost City and Continent of Atlantis do for “The Power of Culture in Sustainable Development” if it were to turn-up in Southeast Asia, particularly in Indonesia? What could we learn from our ancient ancestors from remotest antiquity? What would the impact of such a discovery be on our youth and all of humanity? Perhaps just a little or perhaps a whole lot? Thousands of books and papers have already been written on Atlantis since its reality was first disclosed by the great philosopher Plato, some two and a half millennia ago. Hence, one may well wonder whether a new theory on the subject is really needed. Can anything new actually be said about Atlantis? The answer is a most categorical yes. After all, the riddle of Atlantis has never been satisfactorily solved so far. Our theory is an attempt by a reputed scientist (the late Prof. Arysio Nunes dos Santos, Ph.D.), to scientifically compare and refute, perhaps for the first time ever, the various existing theories on Atlantis’ location and reality.
In his book Atlantis – The Lost Continent Finally Found {The Definitive Localization of Plato’s Lost Civilization} Prof. Santos marries the most recent results and techniques of Modern Science to the sacred and folk lore of all the peoples of the world, knitting humanity together in a solution to the riddle of Atlantis that neatly ties together the vast scientific and traditional evidence which was always there but never before seen by other researchers. Whether you are a scientist with an open mind or a lay person, you will be led to conclude that Plato could well have been telling the truth, after all, since the information provided by the great philosopher is so uncannily confirmed by the recent scientific finds of all sorts.
First, it is being presented a novel theory on Atlantis that will, if accepted, cause a revolution in the fields of archaeology and the human sciences, rendering them fit for the Millennium, or for the birth of the New Age. Atlantis was never found because we have all been looking in the wrong places. Realizing that, Prof. Santos reversed engineered Atlantis back to its true location by studying ancient and modern maps, ancient texts, occultism, archeology,  nthropology, geology, etymology, linguistics, ethnology, mythology, physics, physical chemistry, engineering, alchemy and by doing the necessary research for 30 years and testing the science. He started the process by looking for a location where an entire sunken continent could be hiding itself. Geology afforded the correct, irrefutable answer: down under the South China Sea. So secondly we are also proposing that Atlantis is definitively located  in Indonesia and the surrounding area and that The Evidence is fast emerging. As our theory also proposes the dramatic cataclysmic explosion of the Krakatoa volcano, which opened the Sunda Strait separating the islands of Java and Sumatra and caused the destruction of Atlantis. That it was the mechanism in ending the Pleistocene Ice Age some 11, 600 years ago and when some 70% of the former species of great mammals which existed in this former era became extinct, including, in all probability, two species of humans, the Neandertals and the Cro-Magnons. The rest follows quite naturally and, in fact, far more serendipitously than we ourselves could ever have imagined beforehand. Third, we would like to propose that Indonesia and the surrounding area of Southeast Asia is the “Birthplace or Cradle of Civilization” and to harness the cultural and economic energy in Holistic ways so that such an incredible archaeological discovery will benefit people all around the world, especially in Southeast Asia.

Prof. Arysio Nunes dos Santos, Ph.D.
Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. U.S.A.

Frank Joseph Hoff, B.A.B.A.
University of Washington, U.S.A.
President, Atlantis Publications, Inc., U.S.A.



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